dan ([info]dan501) wrote,
@ 2005-12-23 00:51:00
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I have/had more trouble with this picture than most figuring out what's so appealing about it.

I kept not being able to figure out what kept drawing my eye into this picture. it vortexly sucks my eye into the center. the rule of thirds is largely out the window. the center of the picture (top yellow light) is almost exactly in the center of the picture. and yet it vortexly sucks my eyes.

my mom said it had to do with the shape of the clouds. like they're making a shape that criss crosses and makes you follow their slightly curving lines? she said the clouds make a box shape. almost swastakish, she said.

does this picture's mojo work on you? either way, any idea why?

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[info]eain
2005-12-23 09:32 am UTC (link)
Yes, the mojo works on me, and quite a lot.

For me, it is the contrast between the pink of the clouds, the blue of the sky, and the almost black of the trees and lamps, and then, like a cherry on a sundae, the yellow of the light.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 05:53 pm UTC (link)
thank you.
good point. it is relatively cherryish. subconciously, all boys want a cherry. (and a sundae, I suppose).

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[info]yiskah
2005-12-23 10:56 am UTC (link)
The colours do it for me - and I think the clouds look like a face (with the light as the nose).

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:01 pm UTC (link)
yeaah the colors are the more obvious one. but your face observation is much more revealing. good call.

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[info]dessabel
2005-12-23 11:50 am UTC (link)
Not a big Chris X fan, but I am going with the clouds forming the big Churchillian 'V' - which is probably just the top part of your mum's swastikka anyways.

Nice sunset. I do tend to wax lyrical about the transience of life when confronted with a sunset so I'll just shut the F* up, right now..

db

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:04 pm UTC (link)
good observation. I just saw the crucifiction when you mentioned that.
and, immediately thereafter, I saw the burning man icon.
thank you.

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[info]kicking_k
2005-12-23 12:07 pm UTC (link)
I think it's the big, soaring sky (I like big sky) and the zing of the pink and purple clouds against the blue. And the contrast of the silhouetted landscape with the bright colours.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:45 pm UTC (link)
wyoming is interesting that way. I've been on a boat in the middle of the ocean with no land to be seen, and yet the sky looked bigger to me in wyoming. don't know if that's because it's called the big sky state and I was influenced.

yeah - the silhouetted black trees work well against the zingy sky.
thanks

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[info]jesuispeure
2005-12-23 12:56 pm UTC (link)
It's definitely the high contrastiness of the whole thing plus the leading lines of the clouds. And yellow lights aren't often photographed anyhow, so it's like a, ooh, yellow light, step on the gas, collective unconcious thing. Besides, photography rules are more like guidelines...

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[info]dan501
2005-12-28 11:58 pm UTC (link)
oh I'm well aware of the rules are guidelines dogma. but I've also found the rules to be rules for a reason - they're generally pretty good. I mean, not like anybody got on the cover of vogue by simply following rules..

I guess you're right and yellow lights aren't often photographed. though they should be - a yellow traffic light evokes a visceral reaction from anybody used to driving in the states.

astute points. thank you.

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[info]magicgoof
2005-12-23 02:34 pm UTC (link)
Another vote for the colors...

The amazing contract of the silloette, the stand alone light, and the clound and sky being so vivid.

Also, the angel helps a bit. If it was just flush with the ground, it wouldn't be as interesting.

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[info]magicgoof
2005-12-23 02:34 pm UTC (link)
*angle.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:45 pm UTC (link)
ooooh... a freudian religious reference. I see it.
I know - I tried rotating and cropping it so it was more normally oriented and it didn't really work.

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[info]shamrockergrl
2005-12-23 05:19 pm UTC (link)
your mom is right. the clouds direct your eye to the light. like wise the angle of the shadowy trees and the horizon line direct your eye. also, the contrast in color, not only that its such a bold color in the center with all those pastels, but the fact that its surrounded in contrasting black makes it stand out even more. and thirdly--its a very geometric shape, where as everything else is not.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:51 pm UTC (link)
excellent points. particularly the contrast in color. I kept thinking about it as yellow vs blue. but you are correct and in fact it's yellow vs black. I read, on a trivial pursuit card, loooooong ago that yellow on black is the most contrasty noticeable easy to observe/read color combination to the human eye. I'll try to use that conciously in the future.

yeah - that's a good way of expressing it. I kept thinking that the light is sort of running contrary to the flow of everything else... standing like a tree. but I the geometry vs nature makes sense.
thanks

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:52 pm UTC (link)
and that makes me notice that one of the main lines of the picture is the line of cars running from the lower left corner to the vanishing point. my eyes follow that line most. then there's this start contrasty light running contrary to all that.

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[info]aakin
2005-12-23 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I'm not sure it works as much for me, although I do like the silhouette effect.

I think what sucks my eye in is that it is darker all around the edges (even the sky is darker) and the center sky is bright compared to the rest.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-23 06:53 pm UTC (link)
yay for dissent.
your vignette comment made me notice how the sky is brighter at the car's vanishing point.

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[info]aakin
2005-12-31 06:56 am UTC (link)
Hrm... so that's vignetting...

So that's a factor of the lens? I had thought the sky was actually darkened like that.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-31 07:08 am UTC (link)
when I say vignetting, I mean darkening around the edges. that can be accomplished through burning, photoshopping, lens deficiency, lighting it like that, or whatever. I don't know if that coincides with the official formal definition.

in this case, the sky is darker there - not a lens deficiency. the sun is setting right around the vanishing point so the parts of the sky farthest from that should be darkest.

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[info]aakin
2005-12-31 08:42 am UTC (link)
Ah... cool.

I've seen the term used before, but have never seen a concrete example, so it was neat hearing it this time. I had assumed it was generally a description of lens deficiency... good to know that it's the effect itself.

I think you're right.. I really would benefit from a photography basics class, just for the terminology and basic techniques, if nothing else. I did find a local college that lets you use digital cameras in their basics course, which is cool... I'd rather not have to buy another camera.

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[info]nightrythm
2005-12-23 11:21 pm UTC (link)
The contrast between the bright sky and the almost hard to see dusky darkness of the road is what captures my attention. It also draws my eyes downwards, away from the brightness of the blue.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-24 02:00 am UTC (link)
interesting. while I see the contrast liek that too, I find that it pushes my eyes up instead of drawing them down.

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[info]blood_thunder
2005-12-24 01:58 am UTC (link)
Is that the 101 or the 405?

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[info]dan501
2005-12-24 02:01 am UTC (link)
my best recollection is 101 west woodman on ramp.
but I make you no promises.

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[info]blood_thunder
2005-12-24 02:09 am UTC (link)
It's simply gaw-juss.

There's a professor in my department who is doing a lot of research on psychoaesthetics and the Golden Ratio, but I don't fully understand it, mathematically.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-24 02:14 am UTC (link)
my brother's all into nautilus curves which have something to do with the golden ratio. the spiraly fire pictures were of particular interest to him for that reason.
though the one I posted looked more yingyang to me than nautilus curve.

math of golden rectangles shmath of golden rectangles... though I suppose it's as beautiful to some mathematically as it is to me aesthetically.

I suppose it's beautiful mathematically to me as well. in some ways. but I don't fully understand it, mathematically.

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[info]katsby
2005-12-28 10:18 pm UTC (link)
the little yellow light is so contrasting that it almost looks like it's making a screaming sound. or a loud machine noise. a constant high tone. or a dial tone. i don't know.

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[info]dan501
2005-12-29 12:00 am UTC (link)
you know, looking at it wtih that in mind, the yellow light does have sort of a feel of someone cupping their hands around their mouths in a minimegaphone and the angle of the light simulates someone trying to project/yell to the back of the room over everybody's head. in alice in wonderland anyway...

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